How to Get Better Domain Names for Your Blog

by Gobala Krishnan on September 19, 2008

in Blogging Tips

The most obvious thing you would do when starting a new blog is to register a new domain name that serves both as a powerful brand, and a permanent address on the web. But here’s the problem; all the good domain names are taken!

This is due to several factors:

  • Domain "Squatters" -  People / companies who register and hold domain names for years, with the hope of cashing in a few years later when the value for the domains are high.
  • Abandoned Sites – Someone registered a domain name and had the good intentions of setting up a website, but never quite got to it.
  • Brand Equity – Sometimes a person would register all domains names that sound alike to protect his brand. That includes all .net, .org, .info and other variants

All single word domains have probably been registered years ago. Catchy two-word domains are hard to come by unless you get lucky – so the next best option would be 3-word domains. But hold on..

Just because a domain name has been registered, it does not mean that you can’t get your hands on it. Let me show you how I got some great domain names using not-so-secret but severely overlooked methods that are easy and works most of the time.

GoDaddy’s "Back Order" Domains

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Sometimes I get excited when I find a domain name, and register it without thinking twice. One year later when it’s time to renew my domain, I may decide to let it go as by then I’d probably have accumulated a lot of domains from this rather bad habit :)

And guess what – there are a lot of others who do the same thing! Every day thousands of good, catchy domains expire.

domain-captureGoDaddy allows you to "back order" domains, which basically means "order now, get it later". Each order gets you a "credit" which lasts for one year and can be transferred to other domains. GoDaddy will attempt to secure your domain automatically, and they will inform you when it’s successful.

When you backorder a domain name, the moment the previous owner decides to let it go you’re the most likely person to get it.

For example lets say the domain name ProfitBlogger.com expires one month from now. If you backorder this domain and I don’t renew it when time’s up, you get the domain. If I do renew it however, you get to apply the "credit" to other domain names that you want to get. 

The trick to using this method is to determine the expiry date of a domain, and the only tool you need to use is WhoIs.sc – make sure the domain name has less than a year to go. Once you’ve backordered a domain, no one else will be able to do it via GoDaddy so that’s a bit reassuring!

Some domain names I’ve secured with back orders:

  • PLRBlogger.com – $18.99
  • BlogSecret.com – $18.99

I also have several active backorders for domain names expiring within the next 6 months.

Buy Deleted Domain Names

When a domain expires and it not backordered by someone, it becomes a deleted domain. You can find thousands of such domains at DeletedDomains.com. This site used to be free, but now you have to pay XX a year to subscribe to their service. When you do you’ll be able to wade through thousands of domains deleted in the past 24 hours up to a year ago.

Use their search function and subscribe to alerts based on keywords you want in your domain. You have to be quick, or the good domains usually get bought by squatters.

GoDaddy’s Domain Name Aftermarket

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Domain squatters sometimes decide it’s time to cash in, and they start looking for buyers. GoDaddy’s Domain Name Aftermarket (TDNAM) is where you’ll find a lot of these people selling off rather good domains for pretty cheap. They do it through three methods:

  1. Buy Now – The owner has already listed a selling price. Meet it and the domain is yours.
  2. Offer /Counter Offer – The seller has a suggested price. Make and offer and he can counter or accept your offer.
  3. Highest Bidder – Bid for the domain name. If you’re the highest bidder, you get it.

Although it requires you to search and browse through many crappy domains, you do get to find gems in here.  The trick is to use the search feature properly, and also add desired domains to your "Watch List" to monitor price changes and bids.

Some of the domain names I’ve secured with from TDNAM:

  • IncomeAutomated.com – $10
  • ProfitResponse.com – $10
  • PLRSecret.com – $10
  • AutopilotBlogger.com – $5
  • AutoresponderProfit.com – $100

* To use TDNAM you have to subscribe to it, which costs $4.99 / year

Buy Domains From SitePoint

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SitePoint.com is another place you can buy domains. With this site however negotiations are strictly between you and the owner, with no third-party help. Domain owners usually buy a listing here and go to great lengths to convince you that their domain is worth the price.

You can buy domains with no traffic, or a little bit of traffic if it has been used and promote before. You can also buy domain names with the entire website.

Make An Offer They Can’t Refuse, Via Sedo

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Sedo.com is quite like GoDaddy’s TDNAM, but you’ll find really good domains here and they usually also cost a lot too.

Even if a domain is not for sale on Sedo, you can still benefit from the site. They have a feature where they help you to negotiate the purchase of domain names from the current owner. You remain anonymous until the sale is completed.

You make an offer for the domain, and Sedo conveys that to the domain owner. He can then counter your offer, accept it or reject it without further negotiation. Start low but not too low, and counter offer as much as possible till both parties are satisfied with the price. If you start off with a ridiculous price you’ll get no response, so be realistic. Some domains are worth a lot of money, and the owner probably knows it :)

They also send you a "domain appraisal" report as part of the service.

Domains I’ve got from Sedo:

  • BlogProfit.com – $700
  • ProfitBlogger.com – $1,800
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1 jamesquak September 19, 2008 at 5:30 pm

Thanks again for sharing this info. By the way, I’m currently bought some domains from of Godaddy but I never know about ‘Domain After Market’ before. Since this is first time I saw this article, so I think I will also do some offer to some of my unused domains.

2 Brian Pearce September 19, 2008 at 9:19 pm

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3 Natalie September 22, 2008 at 2:40 pm

We use go daddy! It’s wonderful. Been using it for years now. The only negative factor at this point is once in a while the server will be down for a night.

My husband and I leave on September 30th to backpack to various countries around the world for a year or so. As we have been planning for our adventure we have been updating a blog. http://www.nomadbackpackers.com

We would love to have other opinions, ideas, encouragement, advice, helpful tips, and more left as comments.

Thanks,
Natalie

p.s. We love our domain name and think it fits very well with our new lifestyle.

4 Jonatan September 23, 2008 at 1:18 pm

My husband and I leave on September 30th to backpack to various countries around the world for a year or so. As we have been planning for our adventure we have been updating a blog. http://www.nomadbackpackers.com
nice blog, thanks!

5 Natalie September 23, 2008 at 9:22 pm

Thank you! I am glad you like it.

6 Audrey September 29, 2008 at 1:04 am

I am such a domain name hoarder. You have added fuel to my fire now. I bookmarked all of those sites and can’t wait to find more domain names to add to my stash. Is there a 12 step program for me? ;)

7 John Collins October 8, 2008 at 5:29 pm

Hi Natalie -

I just got a domain name to match the Blogger site I had. After I used the name on Blogger I decided to try and register it. I found out some one beat me to it. It had been registered within two days of me using it on Blogger.

I found out who had it and they expected around $2000 for it. They had it for 2 years. For some reason it didn’t get renewed this time and I got it cheap. Mostly luck. I could have missed it again.

I your going to have a blog or anything else on a free platform where you don’t need a domain name check to see if the name you’re going to use is available. If you come up with a really good name and you don’t buy it some else will. Better it be you getting the name than some one that crawls for names, parks them and holds them ransom.

Also Natalie while I have you attention may I ask what plugin(s) your using here that gives – the number of comments here and there last blog post on mouse over of the commenters name.

Thanks much – John

8 Gobala Krishnan October 10, 2008 at 9:56 am

That’s absolutely true. For that matter if you (1) create a new product (3) write a new report (4) give yourself a nickname, register all related domain names too.

You can just register .com, it will prevent people from getting the .net and other extensions.

9 John Collins October 12, 2008 at 2:59 pm

The thing I noticed about the Go Daddy back order feature is if the name you hope to get is or goes to auction…. Here’s a quote -

“If the name you are interested in has gone to auction at The Domain Name Aftermarket, the $19.99 cost will be used to place the opening bid on the name. If no other bids are placed, the domain will be awarded to you subject to the rights of the previous domain holder. If another bid is received on the name, you will receive an outbid notice and can raise your bid on the name or move the backorder to another name.”

I don’t want my back order to start an opening bid. Once a bid is placed it is more likely to attract additional bids and drive the price up. In an auction a last minute bid is what you want not as soon as the auction starts. This is one type of situation I would not want to use the back order feature. No need to bring attention to the domain you what and drive the price up.

I like back order under non auction conditions but maybe I am wrong and just don’t get it. I have moments like that.

John

John

10 Gobala Krishnan October 13, 2008 at 2:43 am

Really John? Where did you see that, in the Terms and Conditions page? You’re right it would suck if your backorder makes other people start bidding on the domain name.

I never noticed that though when I made the BO’s, and for most domains I think you will probably be the only one trying for it.

If someone else has already backordered the domain you usually see an “X” there indicating that the domain can no longer be backordered.

11 John Collins October 13, 2008 at 5:25 am

Hi Gobala -

You start on the home page and enter the domain you’re hoping to get into the – Start a Domain Name search box. If the name is taken as my choice was you will be on a page the says YourName.COM is already taken.

You will see a short list (horizontal table) of the extensions taken and some that aren’t. You will see the option to – Back Order †Now – if the extensions are taken.

Right below that selection table it says – † If this name expires or is canceled by the registrant we’ll try to grab it the instant it becomes available. More

If you click on – More – you end up at – What is Domain Name Backordering? It’s the third paragraph from the top. Here’s a direct link to the page – http://tinyurl.com/3ac8jo

12 David October 15, 2008 at 6:34 am

While this isn’t necessarily the most authoritative source, the link below gives a “generally accepted” definition:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_squatting

Cybersquatting, according to the United States federal law known as the Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act, is registering, trafficking in, or using a domain name with bad faith intent to profit from the goodwill of a trademark belonging to someone else. The cybersquatter then offers to sell the domain to the person or company who owns a trademark contained within the name at an inflated price.

The keyword there is “trademark”. So a cybersquatter, domain squatter, whatever is supposedly one who registers a domain name of a trademark with the intent to make money off it.

Granted, Wikipedia did indicate “squatting” as being in an abandoned or unoccupied space or building that the squatter does not own, rent or otherwise have permission to use. Unless we’re maybe seeking to redefine squatting (which anyone can have their own preferential definition, anyway), well…how can one “squat” what they actually possess that others desire?

Just thought I’d post a minor “objection” to what you posted regarding domain “squatters”, Gobala. It’s fine if people don’t agree with my comment as I understand where they’re coming from, though. :)

One other thing: Go Daddy’s back order service works mainly for domain names registered with them. Various “domainers” I know attest it’s not as effective as, say, SnapNames or NameJet (2 other choices for you to look at) if the domain name in question is with another registrar.

Anyway, thanks for hearing me out. And looking forward to your blogging here.

13 Gobala Krishnan October 15, 2008 at 11:28 am

I agree to your definition, I was merely referring to it as it’s most commonly used, i.e people who register as many domains as they can think of so they can sell it later at a higher price.

Even if it’s not a trademark a catch domain name is just as good for branding purposes. A lot of people know this, and they snap up domain names, keeping them for years with no intention of ever using the domain names.

For example when the term “blog” started to become more popular, these guys registered any domain name they can think of with the term “blog” in it.I’m sure you’ll agree while ProfitBlogger.com is not a trademarks, it’s much better than getting a three word domain name.

14 Gobala Krishnan October 15, 2008 at 8:15 pm

I read that page, and what I understand is IF the domain you want is ALREADY in their domains auction page, is their TDNAM page, then the backorder price will be applied to the bidding price.

Therefore your backorder will not start an opening bid.

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